Cameron to take on 'scandal' of binge drinking


Prime minister David Cameron will call for pubs, the drinks industry and supermarkets to do more to tackle irresponsible drinking today.

33 replies - Last reply by Robinson Pete, 20/02/2012 12:10:16

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Cameron to take on 'scandal' of binge drinking

It is of course shocking that, as Dave says, "reckless" drunken behaviour of the "irresponsible" minority costs the health service about £2.7b per year.

Unreported by the PMA was the finding last week by the Public Accounts Committee (‘public spending watchdog’) that unpaid taxes (known about, but simply uncollected by HMRC and written off) amounted to £10.9bn per year - or 4 times the cost to the public purse of drunks.

I wonder which of the two scandalous wastes of public money might be easier and more effective for a Government to solve. Could Dave’s ‘Drunk Tanks’ possibly double as ‘Tax Evader Tanks’?

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'The Alcohol Harm Reduction Strategy' has been an answer to one of BIIAB's questions for many years. Perhaps the Government should take that off the shelf, dust it off and read it. They may find that the answers are all there, but as usual - not being followed up.
Bob Finch
www.esil.co.uk

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In short the pub trade is going to get shafted yet again on March 13th.

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The answer is quite obvious. It is called education to the science of alcohol metabolism. To change behavior, change desire.

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Wish we'd been told he was in the North East he could have come and seen for himself what we do to try and stop under age drinkers and what we offer to support licensees...shame really especially as the HO do know we're here....joined up writing ?? !

RE: Cameron to take on 'scandal' of binge drinking

Wish we'd been told he was in the North East he could have come and seen for himself what we do to try and stop under age drinkers and what we offer to support licensees...shame really especially as the HO do know we're here....joined up writing ?? !

RE: frightening growth in binge drinking? I wish.

"Over the last decade we’ve seen a frightening growth in the number of people — many under age — who think it’s acceptable for people to get drunk in public in ways that wreck lives, spread fear and increase crime."

And according to Metropolitan Police figures this is how many people have been arrested for 'drunk and disorderly' since 2001.

2001 - 12138
2002 - 11915
2003 - 11069
2004 - 9688
2005 - 6541
2006 - 5718
2007 - 5142
2008 - 5149
2009 - 5232
2010 - 4516

http://tinyurl.com/6vnlk5z

Some "frightening growth".

RE: frightening growth in binge drinking? I wish.

If only it were that simple: The truth of that is that not as many drunks were arrested for Drunk and Disorderly, but arrested or handed fixed penalties for other Public Order offences.

But that aside, we can still expect firm action against supermarkets selling cheap alcohol, can't we?

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The Government is still useing incorrect data to quote incorrect costs. Does Cameroons left hand have any idea what his right hand is doing.

By Gurjit Degun, 02-Feb-2012

Extreme figures on alcohol-related hospital admissions could be a thing of the past as the Government is to revise how it classifies such cases.
The Department of Health has issued a consultation on the guidelines which it is thought could see figures of alcohol-related admissions fall dramatically. This means that recent figures claiming that hospitals have seen millions of admissions due to alcohol are distorted.
There is concern among trade associations as it is this information which the Government has used to base its legislative action against the alcohol industry, such as the late-night levy.
The current figure of more than a million admissions a year is based on all health conditions recorded for each patient, not just the main reason that the patient is actually admitted.
For example, if a patient is admitted for a stroke after high blood pressure, a fraction of this case is classified as alcohol-related.
This is because high blood pressure is considered an alcohol-related condition. This means that recent figures claiming that hospitals have seen millions of admissions due to alcohol are distorted.
It is anticipated that the changes will not take effect until next April.

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There has been much searching for the answer to our binge drinking culture over the past few years.

Before we can formulate the answer, surely we need to understand the reasons that we have found ourselves in the sorry situation that we are now in.

The situation that the second oldest industry in the world finds itself in, is not too different to that that the banking industry finds itself in, with equally distasteful consequences. The previous government chose to 'de-regulate' both drinking and banking.

The de-regulation of banking fuelled a greed led crisis that has left the finances of our country in tatters and the obvious conclusion is to now re-regulate our banking sector.

Similarly, the de-regulation of our drinks industry has led to widespread profit increases in the grocery sector but at the expense of social behaviour.

Surely everyone outside Westminster knows that extreme drunkenness happens well before customers ever enter licensed premises.

Equally, surely everyone knows that we have reached the point where, just like banking, it is time to re-regulate and bring alcohol consumption back to where it is supervised (regulated) , in a pub, by responsible landlords, within a strong community, led by community leaders (we could call them magistrates)..............

Hang on a minute – we could call the whole process ‘Big Society’ .

Or we could do what we always do and bow to the power of the political donation and allow grocers, distillers and brewers to shape our society with impunity.

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