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RE: Pubs warned over smokers drinking in street

GB you put forward a totally illogical premis at best and a support for the argument against the ban at worst. Yawn............ You do licensees a disservice by assuming that they despise non smokers. I have yet to meet or talk to one licensee who feels that way. I refer to the posts I read here. There is anomosity to those who screamed and shouted for their RIGHT to visit the pub and breath clean air at the and then when achieving this at great expence to others DON'T GO TO THE PUB. To my knowledge these were the people who despised the licensees and smokers and voiced it loud and clear. Interesting statement. Nothing funny about a licensee trying to accommodate the majority of his customers the only way he can and unfortunately this means spending money to keep them. Any pound spent should bring three back. As was said these hordes of anti smokers who were from the outset, were going to negate the effects of the ban were never there.They weren't there in the USA they wern't there in Ireland,Scotland and Wales.  They like the reasons for the ban were a lie. So you haven't noticed the "picket lines" assembled outside many pubs then? If someone wants to visit a pub they don't need a reason. What now Gilbert they won't visit because you don't have belly dancers on the counter? They don't need a reason?At last you seem to be getting the idea. My "local" the Duke of York in Romiley near Stockport actually has very successful belly dancer events. Put under reasons to go... Pubs are places where people of all groups socialise and consume alcohol and food or used to. If the atmosphere and social gatherings are no longer there then that is placed quite squarely at the feet of the anti smokers, no one else. There you go again, Ken. Grouping anti-smokers with non-smokers   Don't you dare try to blame this on non-smokers.

This post replies to Ken Nason > RE: Pubs warned over smokers drinking in street

RE: Pubs warned over smokers drinking in street

GB keeping you up then as you appear to be tired.

A lot of the posters here who oppose the ban are in actual fact non smokers. there is no direct connection between being anti ban and being a smoker. The converse of course is not true. The majority of pro banner actavists are non smokers (or reformed smokers) which would account for the raised level of intollerence from that quarter.

To paraphrase your statement a pound spent can save three pounds potentially lost which would be more accurate in this context.

You lost me on th e picket lines. that was way too deep for my shallow understanding.

If a person wants to go to their local they will go for whatever they seek. It can be as simple as company and condusive surroundings. If they don't want to go to a pub they won't go regardless of what is being offered. The point I apparently seem to have failed to get across is that those shouting for smoke free environment would never go to a pub anyway. The proof is that there are a whole range of attractions put on in pubs around most areas and now all smoke free but non of these people are attracted in even when they are free of the smoke they complained was the barrier to them. The only conclusion that can be reached its that they never wanted to go to pubs anyway or that not only do they want smoke free they also want something else that the licensee apparently isn't providing.

This beggers the question as to why they felt so compelled to change other peoples lives and interfere where they never went or would go?

I am not grouping anyone together this was what the pub does groups people together quite harmoniously and has done for many many years. It's called socialising and enjoyment.

Ken Nason

This post replies to Gilbert Bank > RE: Pubs warned over smokers drinking in street

RE: Pubs warned over smokers drinking in street

I am in the trade Kevin. "local" was parethetised to differentiate it from my own place which as you asked earlier is doing fine, thank you for asking.

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RE: Pubs warned over smokers drinking in street

Let us hope that this ban is as successful as that imposed by James 1st was.

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RE: Pubs warned over smokers drinking in street

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