- Morning Advertiser >
- Forums >
- News Article Comments >
- Reading pubs blame ban for downturn
| Author Name | Opinion | Reply |
|---|---|---|
Robert Feal-Martinez 26/09/2007 09:31:36  |
RE: Reading pubs blame ban for downturn I think it is not a coincidence that Managers are playing down the effect. This is the response we have come to expect from the multiple operators who are protecting shareholder value. However the plight of 'real' pubs is being repeated countrywide but still HMG, ASH and the trade organisations remain resilient that there isn't a problem. My post elsewhere on the stress, and economic effects on employees as reported by Croner just puts things in perspective. The bans have harmed all manner of businesses for a perceived risk that frankly doesn't exist except in the minds of the health fanatics. This post replies to this thread |
|
| Alastair Elliott 26/09/2007 09:58:16 |
RE: Reading pubs blame ban for downturn It is a worry that HMG will not give a balanced view, why not be big enough to admit that the ban is causing major problems in certain sectors !
This post replies to this thread |
|
andy davis 26/09/2007 10:01:51 |
RE: Reading pubs blame ban for downturn I was in Reading a couple of weeks ago when the England v Russia game was on. A pub next to the train station had installed a large TV outside, so that smokers could watch the game(the inside was virtually empty). What will happen when its too cold outside? Given the choice of staying home or going round a mate's place where you are to smoke, with the added incentive of cheaper beer, who is going to go to the pub to watch the game? And they say things are bad now! This post replies to this thread |
|
| Robert Feal-Martinez 26/09/2007 10:22:42 |
RE: Reading pubs blame ban for downturn You are right Andy, in Ireland home consumption has increased by 17% since their smoking ban, and reports from Scotland indicate similar trends as we in England and Wales are also facing. You ask why Government won't be honest Alastair. The Health Service is in a turmoil, the last thing they need is for the funds from Big P to dry up. If they admit that smoking cessation doesn't work, that people are smoking more and parts of the economy are suffering then they admit yet another failure as Government. They have too many failures already. This post replies to andy davis > RE: Reading pubs blame ban for downturn |
|
| kevin o'connor 26/09/2007 15:48:21 |
RE: Reading pubs blame ban for downturn Getting more moans now the nights are turning chilly Pressure on the profit margins increase from Monday with the increase in the minimum wage and holidays With the downturn staffing levels may have to be reviewed This post replies to this thread |
|
| Robert Feal-Martinez 27/09/2007 09:37:41 |
RE: Reading pubs blame ban for downturn Many of us are in the same boat Kevin. What do you do. We are apparently going into a very cold spell which will increase utilities at a time none of us can afford the extra costs. Do we lay off staff, reduce opening hours. There is no easy solution. This post replies to kevin o'connor > RE: Reading pubs blame ban for downturn |
|
| Charles Yaxley 27/09/2007 19:22:38 |
RE: Reading pubs blame ban for downturn Don't worry chaps, I'm sure that some of the pro-banners will have some supportive words and brilliant ideas to help everyone out of this situation. The JDW manager's comment begs a question: why, if recovery would be just a matter of time, did JDW dump their experiment? The lack of a level playing field perhaps?.....just like the one that exists now between the off trade (home consumption) and the on trade......How ironic that the rise in home 'unregulated' drinking, that will give ammunition to the anti-drink campaigners, is a result of the desires of the anti-smoking campaigners! This post replies to Robert Feal-Martinez > RE: Reading pubs blame ban for downturn |
