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Robert Feal-Martinez 22/10/2007 08:13:07  |
What an admission, so can we know expect HMG/SCoTH to finally admit the dangers from ETS/Passive Smoke were also made up. We can prove they were, but we won't gloat when HMG comes clean. What is Brown's Government going to admit next there were no WMD and David Kelly didn't commit suicide. This post replies to this thread |
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| Ken Nason 22/10/2007 08:56:46 |
I think the most telling thing said here was " a feeling that you had to say something" . I think there is a great deal of this going on in all of the committees, study groups and think tanks which then produce what they think they are expected to produce rather than the truth.
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| Robert Feal-Martinez 22/10/2007 09:08:18 |
Ken, Scientists use to have integrity, they would never publish anything until they were certain. Now we have interim findings that mean absolutely nothing and when the final results come out disproving the 'case', they are conveniently buried. This post replies to Ken Nason > RE: Alcohol limits a guess |
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Winton Simpson 22/10/2007 13:36:11 |
The Date that the limits were set is interesting. 1987, does that mean we`ve had binge drinking for the last 20 years or more. only now their doing somthing about it. This post replies to this thread |
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| Georgette Way 22/10/2007 16:40:17 |
Well, now this has been admitted in the licenced trade press, I wonder if the Government will have the decency to inform the general public about it rather than keep scare-mongering all about it all the time? This post replies to this thread |
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| Robert Feal-Martinez 22/10/2007 16:51:36 |
Georgette you should know bad news gets buried by the Government. I think the MA and the Publican slagged off the Daily Mail for their anti Industry stance over the new licensing act but seemed to overlook the total anti trade stance over smoking and the lies, and yet we now know big time it was fabrication. As I have said many times before front line licensees are on their own unless we have an organisation to basically say 'f*ck you' HMG. The NAL will do that but politely of course www.nationalassociationof licensees.co.uk This post replies to Georgette Way > RE: Alcohol limits a guess |
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| jason page 22/10/2007 23:49:26 |
I was on holiday this year with a freind who's mother was on the commitee that set these guidelines. Apparently the reason they came up with them was based on what they percieved it was sensible to say was a safe limit rather than any medical actualite. It was felt that the more proven limits would encourage excess drinking. The licensed trade must brace itself for more attacks, now that the smoking battle has been won , from groups such as Alcohol Concern (previously named the Temperence Society) and a government run by the son of a manse. This post replies to this thread |
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| Ken Nason 24/10/2007 11:08:27 |
I think it is about time that trade publications like MA get working on standing up to this assault on the pubs and become the saviour of licensees by asking all of the right questions in the right places to the right people.
Don't forget MA without the licensed trade there is no MA. You need to be more vocal on behalf of licensees.
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| John Ellis 28/10/2007 01:52:11 |
Quite right Ken! I go on holiday for one week and (potentially) the biggest alcohol news story blows up for (as Winston implied) 20 years!! We've all been sold a lie believing it was based on scientific evidence. We've only just had much lower "harmful" limits advised to us. I wonder if they have ever had any scientific evidence either!!!!! M.A. You've really got to expoit this - Remember "Publican Magazine" runs campaigns! You need to start one on this and get it going very soon!!!!! John Ellis Crown Inn, Oakengates This post replies to Ken Nason > RE: Alcohol limits a guess |
