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Ken Nason 24/10/2007 06:58:18![]() |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed A little piece on BBC midlands today last night on pub closures which asked the question is the english pub disappearing. They quoted 50 pubs a week closing never to reopen and that industry associations supplied the figures. The usual interviews with local landlord and customers who gave reasons why 16 local pubs could be named as closing and being converted into dwellings or bulldozed for building. No mention was made of high rents, tied beers or squeezed margins. The smoking ban was only mentioned once. Nice piece of BBc usual unbiased investigative reporting (ha ha) which didn't actually get to the hub of the problem. I suppose we should be greatful that they actually reallised that the British pub is under severe threat to it's existance.
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Robert Feal-Martinez 24/10/2007 07:58:38![]() |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed What do you expect from the BBC Ken, unbiased reporting, come on. This post replies to Ken Nason > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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Alastair Elliott 24/10/2007 08:42:26![]() |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed This is why there is such an importance for Bobs NAL to take off. Its only then that the truth will come out into the open about all of these closures. This post replies to this thread |
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Robert Feal-Martinez 24/10/2007 08:48:47![]() |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed Lisa that may well be the case but with such a limited membership and restrictions placed on viewing the majority would not get to know. This post replies to Alastair Elliott > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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Bill Gibson 24/10/2007 09:02:47![]() |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed Hang on a minute Bob...there is only one restriction as far as I am aware.... You speak of limited membership yet membership is growing globally including posters from as far away as Melbourne, Australia who have had no problem in either viewing or access...more 'unbiased' reporting from RFM I think. This post replies to Robert Feal-Martinez > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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Robert Feal-Martinez 24/10/2007 09:12:15![]() |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed You cannot view the forums without being a member. The membership has grown by about 16 or 17 since the new forum was launched after Colin's scalpel. There are currently 312 registered users. At the change over from The Big Debate there were over 850. I am not seeking to decry F2C merely pointing out the rules of access. As for viewers from all over the world, the internent allows that Bill. As I understand it new visits to F2C.info appear to be very limited these days, hence it doesn't appear on the Google Radar. Verifiable by simply putting in freedom to choose. I'm sorry you think I am being biased I merely pointed out a fact. Or are you saying reading the forums doesn't require signing up. If not then my point to Lisa is valid. This post replies to Bill Gibson > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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Tony Blows 24/10/2007 10:19:56![]() |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed the reason for the slow increase for people signing up to Freedom2choose info came about because someone knobbled the original web site. this person done this knowing it would cause us great problems. 1000's of hours of work by individuals was lost without a care in the world. i get phone calls and Emails every day asking why when they access F2C.co.uk they now get a web site with someone only talking about themselfs and not bothering about what we are fighting for, i point them in the right direction but all this will take time to recover back to where we were. i can only add that this spitfull and selfish move has only dammaged this persons reputation and will never recover. for someone i had the greatest respect for i now have nothing. This post replies to Robert Feal-Martinez > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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Robert Feal-Martinez 24/10/2007 10:50:56![]() |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed Perhaps your views are based on one side of a very complex story Tony. You were not permitted the truth. That truth remains the sole responsibility of one person. My standing has not been damaged by this and I am surprised at your comments given you were one of those who tried to seek the truth and you too were relegated to the hidden forum for trying to seek the truth out. It is very sad that you and other seem to belive that I did something to harm F2C. There are those who have always known that I was more than willing to hand over freedom to choose.co.uk. The only stipulation I made in the end was to be allowed to view an alleged FTP folder that alleged someone working on my behalf was attempting to destroy the site. That individual is wuite prepared for that log to be made public. I was prepared to have it examined by an MOD IT expert. I also stated that if it was indeed found to prove what was alleged I would hand over F2C.co.uk without hesitation. Your Chairman refused to allow that and essentially blamed your webmaster. That is the truth of what took place. I find it incredible that you can make a statement that the site for UKIP is about me. It was you who convinced me to chance to UKIP and to affiliatte F2C with them. But I guess in a free world one is entitled to believe what one wishes. i take this is a pre-cursor to more attacks on my character. Such a shame, especially as a month ago things were fine between us, if your emails are anything to go by. readers make up your own mind is this a site about me. www.freedom2choose.co.uk This post replies to Tony Blows > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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andy davis 24/10/2007 11:25:15![]() |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed Whatever happened in the past, its now done. Time to move on. It is quite obvious that F2C site access has been hampered by the domain name change and it will take time to get back to number 1 in google ratings. That withstanding, new members are still joining and only need to register(as with the majority of web based forums/comments pages) to have access to the forum. Back to the subject of the thread- it seems that pubs are closing on a daily basis and that the numbers are being witheld by the vested interests inside(and outside) of the trade. I'm sure HMG are well aware of the figures! The trade didnt unite to fight to prevent the ban and it seems there wont be any trade left to influence the review of the ban in 2010. This post replies to Robert Feal-Martinez > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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Robert Feal-Martinez 24/10/2007 11:41:55![]() |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed You are correct it is now done, which is why I fail to understand the personal attacks. The truth is a simple one. F2C.co.uk was pointing to F2C.info, until events commissioned by others altered that. One person decided that info should replace .co.uk, that person would have known the consequences. However this from Barmey ASH. In May Swedish epidemiologists said that their investigations showed that oral snuff caused no risk of lung or mouth cancer but was linked to pancreatic cancer. I only post this because there are those who claim this product is less harmful than smoked tobacco, the EU do not agree and are going after Sweden. This post replies to andy davis > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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