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Bill Gibson 24/10/2007 16:41:23 |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed Bob has mentioned a log on this thread, I have seen a copy of this log that runs into nearly 2640 pages. I am no techy but the content to me on looking at it does look mighty suspicious. Words appear that are clear indications of commands 'get' is repeated throughout the file. As far as a pro smoking group, F2C is anything but and is actively championing the Erosion of Civil Liberties not only here but in association with other like minded groups, across Europe. What is disturbing is the lack of fight within the trade to confront HMG head on, it is being left in the main to their customers to take a stand... why? . This post replies to andy davis > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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| Dave Robinson 24/10/2007 16:52:56 |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed Andy,
it is not slagging off F2C its a viewpoint from outside the group. precisely the area that you should be appealing to. Take off the tinted glasses and get moving. For a group with the aims they have they should be reaching out to people not looking inward, squabbling and/or slapping each others back. I am happy to admit although Robert doesnt share my views on most things he was the spearhead to the campaign. It now appears blunt and untargeted.
My interpretation is based on what i see, as a member of the public. interpretations are obviously wide ranging but using what i read and what i dont see (and meaningful campaign) i have come to that concluson. Merely discounting this is dangerous. An organisation is defined by how the public view them not how they view themselves. This post replies to andy davis > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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Craig Ward 24/10/2007 16:58:08 |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed You are all losing sight of what is important and what is important is that we should have the freedom of choice. Every adult should have the choice of whether they work, drink, socialize in a smoking pub or a non smoking pub and that choice has been removed and that is what you should be fighting about, not who did what to whom that should be kept private as it only undermines what should be being fought. Please forgive me if I have trod on anyones toes and hey it is only my opinion. This post replies to Bill Gibson > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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| Bill Gibson 24/10/2007 17:18:23 |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed I have to agree wholeheartedly with you Wardy, but issues keep coming to the fore just when the majority want to move on and take the fight forward with increased vigour. This post replies to Craig Ward > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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| Jon Singleton 24/10/2007 17:38:48 |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed Wardy said "Please forgive me if I have trod on anyones toes and hey it is only my opinion." Wouldn't worry what anyone else thinks - freedom of expression is allowed I do have to ask, what is happening with the Judicial Review? This post replies to Craig Ward > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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| Bill Gibson 24/10/2007 17:48:54 |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed Prior to Bob's departure and in consultation with legal advisors he agreed that the JR was to be pegged behind the Countryside Alliance Appeal in the House of Lords. The debate on the Hunting Ban ended last Thursday and a decision is expected in around 6 weeks time. Based on the CA outcome will determine the route forward with the F2C Judicial Review. With regard to the finer points on this route, Bob may be able to answer you as I am not in a position to offer concise explanations at this time but welcome transparecy in responding to your question Jon. This post replies to Jon Singleton > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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| andy davis 24/10/2007 17:54:45 |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed Dave Your comments were hardly objective, however that is your prerogative. From what i see F2C is more proactive than it has ever been, and is very much geared to those who are pro-choice. However, It is still very much in its infancy, and there is much work yet to be done. I fear you are prejudging the organisation before it has even got off the ground. The ban has only been in place for 4 months, alot of people are only just starting to realise the effects. As i suggested before if it wasnt for the weak compliance and capitulation of the pub trade, F2C wouldnt need to exist. So, I think it is a bit rich anyone from the trade to be so critical at such an early stage. This post replies to Dave Robinson > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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| Jon Singleton 24/10/2007 18:17:12 |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed Thanks, Bill This post replies to Bill Gibson > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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| Jon Singleton 24/10/2007 18:23:51 |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed Andy said "As i suggested before if it wasnt for the weak compliance and capitulation of the pub trade, F2C wouldnt need to exist." FTC wouldn't have needed to exist, if the whole trade actually cared to embrace the non smoking area ethos. Those that moan loudest are the ones that caused this disaster
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| andy davis 24/10/2007 18:37:04 |
RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed Jon Do i take it by disaster, you mean the Smoking Ban? This post replies to Jon Singleton > RE: Famous Status Quo pub closed |
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