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david coombs 27/02/2008 10:20:55![]() |
RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs I have been featured in the MA before and would like to share my views yet again. I run the Greyhound Pub in Bolton and was featured as 'neighbours' complained about the noise in my beer garden and the local Noise Pollution from Bolton council came round and did a monitoring in Sept. Since then peace.....until last month, our neighbour ( in the singular) those not aware of this plot should know that houses were built backing on to my beer garden ( where once stood a church) just 3 years ago, about the noise over the Xmas and New Year period !!! We have had a meeting with Bolton Council this week and they politely informed us that the beer garden was not licensed, step in a certain Pubco who sold us this pub last Jan and 2 weeks after we moved in, they sold out !!!! The council suggested we move our shelter into the car park which is on the main A6, get planning permission, get it licensed, ( plot so far, what about the kids playing on the main A6 ??) ALL OF THIS BECAUSE OF ONE WHINGING FRUSTRATED NEIGHBOUR. The laugh was the council said' we are not trying to close businees down ' No ?? I like many others are now contemplating getting out, my takings last night 4pm - 11.30 pm just topped £100 before the ban they were c£350. I can be contacted on greyhoundwingates@btinternet.com if you are in a similar position, this WAS a lovely trade but sadly the bleeding hearts, jobsworths and minorities are definitely KILLING IT. This post replies to this thread |
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David Pott 27/02/2008 10:48:54![]() |
RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs David why do they want your beer garden licensed? This post replies to david coombs > RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs |
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oz wunsche 27/02/2008 11:17:19![]() |
RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs it seems that the ones who have really reacted to the smoking ban are the supermarkets. They have cut prices to loss leading levels in an aggresive attack on the pub trade. How do the pub cos react? In the usual way of course by increasing rents and the prices of tied products. No wonder their share prices have tumbled and the industry they monopolise is in decline. Either this is inadequate management or there have been decisions taken 'on high' that will see the continued demise of the pub industry. Probably the latter. I'm sure those in the know sold their shares before the across the board 50% devaluation. Anyone on these forums who raps on about opportunity in these trading conditions is either lying to themselves or a stooge. Welcome tesco europe goodbye britain. This post replies to this thread |
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Les Whittaker 27/02/2008 11:22:28![]() |
RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs I am virtually landlocked with the exception of a very small yard adjoining my neighbour’s house (terraced). I applied, before the smoking ban, to license the area as I was told by LA It would be a requirement if smokers were to take their drinks into this area. Not one neighbour objected even though the nearest doesn’t use the pub. The licensing officer however did, saying it was too close to adjoining property and said he would abject if I continued with the application. My reply was that I would drop the licensing but reserved the right to use it as a smoking area. His reply was that he would monitor the area and if there were any complaints would review my license. With the downturn in trade I can now no longer fund the smoking area so my customers are forced to stand on the pavement on the main road. I too, am looking toward an exit strategy even though I had planed for at least another four years. I fear though that my asset value will now have fallen bellow an acceptable level so in a catch 22 for the moment.
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david coombs 27/02/2008 11:34:29![]() |
RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs David They say that people cannot take their drinks into this area, although it had benches and umbrellas in it when we purchased plus on the plans the doors leading onto it say ' new summer doors' I am going to get advice but frankly I am pig sick, I now hold down a full time job at age of 57 I had to get a few months ago to help pay the bills. Why oh why did we give power to Town Halls ? This post replies to David Pott > RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs |
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Ken Nason 27/02/2008 12:23:58![]() |
RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs Dave you should point out that the LA is incorrect in their asssertion that your garden area must be liccensed.
Providing your license provides for the sale of alcohol for consumption on or off the premises, and if you had a grandfather rights conversion it more than likely will be, then your customers are free to consume where they like.
It is only the sale that is a licenseable activity and definitely not smoking.
Les as far as Graham and I being involved in pot and kettle calling activities you must admit we are nicely polished!!
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Les Whittaker 27/02/2008 13:12:34![]() |
RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs Ken, nicely polished you may be, but I too remeber "Wolfie Smith" and just how long ago that was. LOL
So am I to take it from your last reply that my LA was indeed wrong to insist I needed a license for my smoking area? This post replies to Ken Nason > RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs |
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david coombs 27/02/2008 13:14:45![]() |
RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs Ken That seems sense. could you possibly email me your phone number to greyhoundwingates@btinternet.com so I could call you and you could advise how I can resolve this with the council. Thanks dave This post replies to Ken Nason > RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs |
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Mark Williams 27/02/2008 13:48:58![]() |
RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs Although the beer garden may not need to be licensed, you migth want to check your operating schedule to see if it says anything about customers entering or leaving with glasses or open bottles. I have this in mine and although it is meant to prevent people walking in or out onto the street with glasses/open bottles etc, it also aplies to taking them into unlicensed parts of your own grounds. This post replies to david coombs > RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs |
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guy Arnold 29/02/2008 23:24:04![]() |
RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs Just because I disagree doesn't mean I'm wrong.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
KBO GUY This post replies to John Baker > RE: Smoke ban not closing pubs |
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