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17 th January 2008

Enterprise

Inns plc

 

Interim

Management Statement

 

Enterprise Inns plc (ETI) publishes its

interim management statement for the 15 weeks to 12 th January 2008,

to coincide with its Annual General Meeting to be held at 11.00am today.

 

ETI’s business model remains robust,

despite the difficult trading conditions which it predicted at the time of its

preliminary announcement in November 2007, with EBITDA running broadly in line with

the same period last year and earnings per share ahead.

 

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RE: Inbev: UK beer volumes down 10.3%

The smoking ban introduced during 2007

has had an adverse impact on many pubs, particularly those that are

predominantly wet–led, with some industry statistics suggesting that beer

volumes have fallen by around 9% in October and November 2007. Having aggressively

churned the estate over the past few years and invested effectively alongside

licensees to develop a broader, high quality offering which is less dependent

on beer sales, ETI and many of its licensees are to some extent protected from

the full impact of these beer volume declines. However, as stated at the time

of our preliminary announcement, we remain cautious about consumer confidence

and its impact on all sectors of the pub industry over the coming year.

 

In a marketplace that is likely to

remain difficult for some time, it is especially important that we work closely

with our licensees, not only to help them to develop new business opportunities

but also to support licensees who are genuinely struggling, despite their best

efforts, to deal with adverse market conditions.   In this regard, we continue to offer rent

concessions, discount schemes and trading support where appropriate.   Thanks to the quality of our pub estate, the

expertise of our licensees and our support we are not experiencing any material

deterioration in the key indicators of our licensees’ financial health. 2008.

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RE: Inbev: UK beer volumes down 10.3%

During the same period, ETI has disposed of

10 pubs and 2 plots of surplus land for a total

consideration of £7 million, a profit over

book value of £2 million. There is considerable

interest in the batch of 96 pubs that we

put on the market in November for sale for alternative

use and current indications are that these

former pubs will also deliver a profit over book

value.

 

ETI is continuing discussions with HMRC

regarding a potential conversion to REIT status and is exploring whether an

internal restructuring of the Group’s activities, currently being considered by

the Board and designed to enhance shareholder returns and optimise the benefits

of our proposed refinancing, would result in the Group becoming eligible for

admission to the REIT regime.   HMRC is

considering various aspects of this proposed restructuring and we will update

shareholders when there are significant developments to report.  

 

The balance sheet and cash flows of the

business remain healthy, with debt ratios in line with those reported at the

end of September 2007. As previously indicated, we have capacity to refinance

the Unique securitisation and we are reviewing all options with our advisers.

In the meantime, we continue to buy back shares for cancellation and since 30

September 2007 have purchased 5.5 million shares at a cost of £29 million

excluding associated costs.

 

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RE: Inbev: UK beer volumes down 10.3%

Where was I? Ah yes. Graham Allman and David Morgan. Yes, my lease was marketed as becoming free of tie in 1998. Remember those days? What happened to keep me tied is another long story I'll recount some day. Anyhow I've been around the houses with PubCos. I've met or spoken to a couple of ceo's about my business. They knew my business - out of the thousands they presided over. So I must of done something right. Their cards played close to chest. As for the minions, I've been misled, misrepresented to, lied to, bullied, threatened, cajoled. blackmailed, humiliated, intimidated and down right annoyed by utter ignorance and stupidity in the time I've had a tied lease. Nothing I recognise from my time in the real world. The world before the tie. Ken Nason Gross profit. You split hairs. In an industry where THE benchmark gross profit to be achieved across all sales is minimum 65% achieving 60% is not so good. And the world of catering I came from had nothing to do with ties. I did my research before getting into this and on paper it worked. In practice being a straight up right down the line declare everything business with a tie just does not work. When overheads exceed the returns a 60% gp produces there's little point being in business. In my case I need 65% to make my business stack up. This is in line with all my previous experience in business. I was undercapitalised when I set up which has been a perennial thorn in my side. Something common in the tied pub business, I'm sure. And no amount of general catering and business experience could prepare anyone for the reality of this feudal, archaic, land baron top down dominated mediaeval construct that is tied PubCo life. They have consistently made more out of me than I have and that is plain wrong.

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RE: Inbev: UK beer volumes down 10.3%

Mark, no splitting of hairs purely a pointing out of your assertion that you are forced to look upon your beer sales as loss leaders gives an inaccurate picture. Lower profit generator yes but by no means a loss.

Mark I would be interested in knowing where you obtain your benchmark from of 65% and how this relates to individual pubs. Gross profit % attainment cannot be looked at or considered in isolation as it is dependent on turnover to produce the wealth to pay the bills. If you are only attaining 30% gp then you need to sell twice as much to achieve the same profit as attaining 60% gp. As you know it is always a balancing act between turnover, costs and gross proft.

 

In your example of requiring 65% surely this is dependent on your achievable turnover. If you turn over £400k @65% gp this produces £260k profit. If you can only make 60% gp then you require to increase your turnover to £433k to make the same profit.

 

The problems arrise when one of these affected and restricted to alteration by the licensee. In the case of the tie he looses control over his GP's and in a falling economy( or under legislation) he looses control over his turnover and in an inflation heading economy he looses control over his costs.

 

Most businesses can survive and adapt to loosing control over one of these components of the equation as with tied tenants still being ok with restricted GP% control. When control over two or more of these components happens then things get really tough and sometimes impossible.

Freehold licensees have not hit this economic downturn with one of their hands tied (excuse pun) behind their back by their landlords (two if you count upward marching rents) and as a result are not experiencing the sharp end reality being experienced by tied tenants as acutely.

 

Ken Nason

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RE: Inbev: UK beer volumes down 10.3%

Mark I have fought against the Pubco model inequities for years now both here and on the Publican site and have fought with tenants for their rights both in and out of rent reviews.

 

So to others on here please do not, as has been suggest, that I in any way am a Pubco supporter. I am a realist

There has been a progressive cynical hardening of Pubco attitudes over the last three or so years with them consolidating their financial security and income at the expense of their tenants.

When will peole realise  THEY DON'T CARE !(despite what their PR says) about the tenant's plight and especially at the moment will stand on your head to keep their heads above water.

 

That, is reality.The sooner tenants get around that fact the quicker they will stop expecting support where there is none

Ken Nason

Ken Nason

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As you say Mark , you are from a catering background and not that of the pub world for if it was vis versa you would know that there has never been a world "before tie" , Ken , do you want to enlighten Mark about life in the "80s" when there were managed houses and tied tenancies only , except for the few (3% of total estate) leaseholds and the freehouse estate which accounted for 25% of the pub stock , the same % as in 2008. No splitting of hairs Mark , just fact and people like Ken and yours truly were there.... in "feudal brewery land".

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