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Pubs that serve wine and spirits would be legally bound to offer smaller serves under new plans expected to be announced this Autumn.
It follows a campaign led by Greg Mulholland MP, who in introduced a Private Member’s Bill in January that requires all pubs to offer a 125ml measure of wine as well as the larger 175ml and 250ml sizes.
Mulholland has written to Home Secretary Jacqui Smith to welcome the news.
The MP for Leeds North West said: “I am delighted that the Government has shown sense, and backed the proposals that I outlined in my Bill.
“In the last few years there has been a clear move to ‘trade up’ wine glass measures and phase out smaller glass sizes, the result being that often drinkers do not know how many units of alcohol they are consuming.
“Requiring pubs and bars to sell smaller wine glasses, as well as the larger sizes, would increase consumer choice at the same time as being a simple and effective method of increasing alcohol awareness and encouraging respons
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john morphew 21/07/2008 14:56:17 |
RE: Pubs to be forced to offer wine in small glasses why not go the whole hog and ban alcohol altogether, except, of course, in the house of commons bar where they can already smoke and drink as much as they want and eat dinners subsidised by us. of course supermarkets would be exempt, we could all earn our living selling soft drinks only. just think, no drunks no bars, no fun, no life, just a few hundred licencees on the dole This post replies to this thread |
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Forum user 4651 21/07/2008 14:58:02 |
RE: Pubs to be forced to offer wine in small glasses Wine should be offered in the smaller size of 125ml. I prefer this. Having a smaller measure doesn't make me drink quicker. I pace myself with the other drinkers in the round. If I had a larger measure I would still be keeping pace. Therefore I would drink more. Generally when my husband & myself go out for drink we only have a couple. I know then with the smaller measure that I am not going over the top. This post replies to this thread |
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Stephen Corbett 21/07/2008 15:28:36 |
Pubs to be forced to offer wine in small glasses Are wine drinkers really the problem here? 125ml, 175ml, 250ml or a whole bottle I still would have thought that the majority of responsible social drinkers are people who drink wine. However, if the extra option of 125ml glasses is made law and the customer then has a broader choice of glass size available then so be it but will it really make that much difference? Surely the time, effort and money that this will cost getting this bill passed through Government is not really worth the end result? What next, beer by the nip? Or one pint and 4 straws? This post replies to this thread |
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| Robin Scott 21/07/2008 15:38:30 |
Pubs to be forced to offer wine in small glasses Only recently we were reading of planned legislation to outlaw cigarette sales in packs of less than 20. The 'logic' being that youngsters if forced to buy 20 rather than 10 will find the higher price forces them to smoke less or not at all. So how do we square that idea with this even brighter idea? This post replies to this thread |
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| J Mark Dodds 21/07/2008 20:52:16 |
Pubs to be forced to offer wine in small glasses The whole is a ridiculous diversion from any version of normality or common sense. I posted elsewhere on a related thread that I've been working in bars and restaurants for thirty years and in that time the 125ml glass was ever only used in pubs (some posh places as well) over 20 years ago for serving vile 'wine' liquors called Corrida or some other equally awful name from optics alongside port & lemon, Snowballs and G&T with one cube of ice and pre sliced floppy lemon from a jar. GROSS! At least the tonic was in (sticky) recyclable bottles then. How the 175ml glass has recently become a vehicle of social breakdown and calamitous wide spread ill health is utterly beyond me. As with most things I blame my parents. My experience is horribly narrow obviously, perhaps I just managed to work in places where people behaved in a civilised manner and knew how much to drink without getting messy. You know, like most adults. edited by: J Mark Dodds at: 21/07/2008 20:52:46 This post replies to this thread |
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| david robertson 21/07/2008 20:55:17 |
Pubs to be forced to offer wine in small glasses Ah memories .......good old Corrida ..... I remember a pub wine called "Hirondel". It tasted so bad that you wished someone HAD washed their rectum with it. edited by: david robertson at: 21/07/2008 20:55:35 This post replies to J Mark Dodds > Pubs to be forced to offer wine in small glasses |
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| J Mark Dodds 21/07/2008 21:00:20 |
Pubs to be forced to offer wine in small glasses Yes. Hirondel. Forgot that one. Those extraordinary names always made me think of the nameless tortured characters in a Hieronymus Bosch painting: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Hieronymus_Bosch_003.jpg This post replies to david robertson > Pubs to be forced to offer wine in small glasses |
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| John Ellis 22/07/2008 16:01:02 |
Pubs to be forced to offer wine in small glasses Another Barking idea from out-of-touch politicians! I use ONLY 125ml glasses but (apart from my fruit wines) I don't sell any wine by the glass. I only serve it by the 187, 250, or 750ml bottle. Where do I stand on this? If I am forced to serve wine only by the 125 ml measure, I will only do so if every supermarket and off-licence in the land is ALSO only allowed to sell wine by the 125 ml bottle. The standard supermarket "glass" is 750 ml. What does the Government intend to do about this? Ewan, can the M.A. get an answer for us??? John Ellis, Crown Inn, Oakengates This post replies to this thread |
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| John Ellis 22/07/2008 16:01:02 |
Pubs to be forced to offer wine in small glasses Another Barking idea from out-of-touch politicians! I use ONLY 125ml glasses but (apart from my fruit wines) I don't sell any wine by the glass. I only serve it by the 187, 250, or 750ml bottle. Where do I stand on this? If I am forced to serve wine only by the 125 ml measure, I will only do so if every supermarket and off-licence in the land is ALSO only allowed to sell wine by the 125 ml bottle. The standard supermarket "glass" is 750 ml. What does the Government intend to do about this? Ewan, can the M.A. get an answer for us??? John Ellis, Crown Inn, Oakengates This post replies to this thread |
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Brian Jacobs 28/07/2008 11:11:21 |
RE: Pubs to be forced to offer wine in small glasses Common sense tells you that if a couple or more people buy a bottle of wine between them the smaller glass size is important, it allows three or four people to happily share that bottle. If they had 250ml glasses then they would be lucky to get just four glasses. The sensible size for sharing is 125ml and if a sole drinker wants jus a glass then likewise a 125ml is sensible and at a puch the 175ml. What is interesting is that the BBPA have a view which suggests that they speak for the retail industry. Here is a property and brewer orientated organisation that happens to represent a mere 9000/10000 or so retail outlets talking about wine sales when there are 26,000 tenant pubs and a further 20,000 free of tie pubs, a total of 46,000 pubs that they do not represent as retailers. The BBPA represent a mere 16% acting as if they represented the majority of pubs. This post replies to this thread |
