One of the biggest contributors to declining standards of Government has been a pathetic over-reliance on management consultants.
Our politicians — elected by us to use their judgement wisely — have wasted billions on outsourcing policy-making to highly-educated professionals who don’t get out much.
The results have been disastrous — look at what’s happened to our railways, our post offices, our schools, our hospitals… The list goes on and on. And the latest disaster in the making is the KPMG report on responsible drinking.
This is an utterly laughable document, compiled no doubt at great expense to us taxpayers, and it will apparently play a major part in how the Government next proceeds in its quest to kill binge drinking (and pubs, for that’s what it’s doing with all the regulatory costs it heaps on the sector).
Consider the naivety and ineptness of this lamentable report. Just over 400 pubs and bars in eight towns have been “studied” by KPMG’s people. And surprise, surprise, s
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Mick Sackfield 25/07/2008 16:31:05![]() |
RE: Why should pubs take the blame? Well said Andrew!! This post replies to this thread |
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Dave Evans 25/07/2008 16:45:44![]() |
Why should pubs take the blame? A heartfelt round of applause Andrew. Somehow this has got to get to the public conciousness now. Dave E. This post replies to this thread |
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jon downes 25/07/2008 17:31:20![]() |
Why should pubs take the blame? Hear hear, this government will not be around much longer so until the next elected one does we have to suffer. Next government will do well to curry favour with the industry and the public who use the great british pub there is an awful lot of disgruntled voters out there saying enough is enough. This post replies to this thread |
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Tony Preston 25/07/2008 18:46:24![]() |
RE: Why should pubs take the blame? Hear Hear - The problem with these 'documenters of the social condition' is that they are documenting activity in response to a specific criterion. They are not taking a whole situation objective review. The one thing nobody seems capable of understanding is that the pub is the single only place left where control can be affected on the drinking public. The laws are such that to knowingly allow contravention of service policies can result in very hefty fines, loss of license, loss of job, even imprisonment. With such considerations to keep the average landlord 'focussed' on the job at hand, and most are, then the public house is the best place to allow of-age individuals to relax from social drudgery and relax with friends. Gosh, they might even break out on song and dance a little, even laugh! The fact is, most drinking in controlled situations is regulated well and appreciated by those who are there. Take this bastion of Britishness away, and we have anti-social drinking from cheap purchases in uncontrolled environments. The pub is the social element, the control - without it, 'social' drinking attracts the 'anti'. This post replies to this thread |
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Ged Dempsey 25/07/2008 19:17:17![]() |
RE: Why should pubs take the blame? Hi , I agree with your comments, I have spent 35 years in retail, the last 25 at Board level and have seen what damage Consultants can do to businesses.Most of the consultants are just out of college and all they do it follow a text book model. They have little or no experience of life on the street and can be influenced by the last event in their life. This labour government and in particular Brown and Darling lack leadership and are akin to rabbits caught in headlights, complete muppets, they increase the duty on beer and leave the alco pops alone, why? I am in the process of buy ing a pub, just passed my Personal Licence and had an offer accepted on a Free of Tie lease with a private landlord. My concern s that while some city centre pubs and night clubs have problems and that is there for all to see, there is a more sinister problem with the super markets selling drink at the most silly prices. Somerfileds are advertising Fosters @ £4.99 for a box (not sure how many cans but on the advert is looks like at least 12) now how responsible is that! Surely this is below cost and if it isn't then the suppliers should be hammered. They do an age check at point of purchase that buyer is over 18 and once out of the store these cans are spilt up and young kids drinking without any control. Regards, Ged Dempsey This post replies to this thread |
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Forum user 4246 26/07/2008 12:37:01![]() |
RE: Why should pubs take the blame? My name is Nigel Rose I am the landlord of the new cross keys in PONTEFRACT west YORKSHIRE i have been in this pub now since dec 2006 in this time ive tried commiting suicide 3 times, Ihave split from my girlfriend who has had 3 beautiful children to me. I miss them very much. there is no way out admiral taverns have driven me into the ground, I had 3 properties when i took this pub on now i have only one where leah and my kids are living and if i go bankrupt they will be homeless. I am living above the pub trying to make ends meet but I am struggling to find money to buy food. This industry has been crippled, the smoking ban has contributed to this immensely. I am in a contact with the brewery for 6 years so i still owe them 4 years rent. I had my own music lighting and tv systems put in costing 11,000 to try and encourage people in I owe over 8,000 but it doesnt, people just dont have the money. Im at my wits end and losing it I dont want to do myself in but I cant cope anymore. I have ruined my childrens life through a dream that gone pear shaped please help Nigel 01977 797449 This post replies to this thread |