News Article Comments : O'Hagan: Pubs are irresponsible

Bill Gibson

Highly acclaimed Scottish author and Telegraph columnist Anrdew O’Hgan has launched a scathing attack on pubs for fuelling binge drinking and violence.

In an astonishing tirade against Britain’s pubs, O’Hagan said: “Many of the establishments are so pressed for custom that they will do anything to fill their bar – mainly selling toxic drinks in devastating quantities to kids who consider a good night out to be one that ends in copious vomiting.”

O’Hagan claims that most pubs are slashing prices after the British Beer and Pub Association (BBPA) withdrew its code on promotions last month.

The BBPA withdrew the code on advice that it breached competition laws.

“This body (BBPA) agreed - and many publicans said they agreed too – that it was a bad idea to offer promotions that depended on patrons scoffing drinks within a limited period of time or based on entry fees that included the reward of allowing people unlimited alcohol,” said O’Hagan in the Telegraph.

“By flouting their own rul

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RE: O'Hagan: Pubs are irresponsible

He should turn his wrath on the Governments both north and south of the border. It is as a result of the increased legislation along with falling numbers of customers in venues that is forcing a change in marketing strategy.

In any case, the main problem lies and has been in recent times the drinking that takes place outwith the venue then the problems that arise when customers then finish their night out in the pubs & clubs.

He should try investing in the hospitality sector first befor making such comments.. this from someone who fully appreciates the hard work of those publicans trying hard to make ends meet.

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The major offenders on slashing prices and crazy drinks promotions are the managed houses and high volume corporate set ups, the average licensee under a Pub Co can ill afford to make these offers, get real O'Hagan and do some serious research into what you are writing about or keep your mouth shut. If you are going to raise these issues identify the offenders, you won't find many ordinary licensees involved, just the companies with revolving licensees in town centres.

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Perhaps it is different north of the border but I doubt if there is one single pub or bar that sells an alcopop cheaper than a supermarket/corner shop. As stated, Pubco's charge MORE than local supermarkets for alcopops and you are still expected to sell it on and make a profit.

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O'Hagan: Pubs are irresponsible

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1YourView&xml=/opinion/2008/07/29/do2904.xml for the actual article Dave E.

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What a plonka. How the words "highly acclaimed" can be associated with a man who has obviously done no research whatsoever before shouting his moth off, I'll never know.

It's about time some of these I'll informed blabber mouths came out into the real world and saw for themselves what the truth really is instead of slating honest hard working licensees !!!!

edited by: Les Whittaker at: 30/07/2008 12:03:42

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Perhaps the much acclaimed Mr O'Hagan is as desparate for publicity as he claims licensees and pubs are to sell alcohol. A bad article which is rightly receiving a right drumming on the Telegraph blog forum

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Thanks for that piece of info Peter. Think I'll pop across there and do a bit of my own drumming.

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O'Hagan's scathing attack misses the point by the proverbial country mile, but quite why we should expect more than cheap journalism, jumping on a sensationalist agenda these days is sadly also beyond me!

A thorough investigation into the cause and consequence would have invested in O'Hagan getting to the root problem, but a knee jerk article written off the cuff to fulfill an agenda driven out of , I fear, political expediency, goes no way to getting at the root of the issue. But then he probably already knows this. But just in case he doesn't, and he is open to suggestion, lets look at what he has missed.

The issue of pre-loading...but we wouldn't want papers to lose supermarket advertising revenue now would we!

The reason why Licensees are promoting their business in order to survive? Is he really suggesting people should endanger their livelihoods just in order to protect his quiet pint, because that is clearly out of the question. Not so much licensees scuttling their own ships, but attempting to keep the vessel afloat in very stormy waters. faced with high rents, falling sales, beer ties, inconsistent weather, duty increases, credit crunch, falling beer sales, pressure from the off trade, who he conveniently ignores...need I go on.

And all this from a journalist who works for a paper that appears to despise government intervention in the main? Why then attempt to heap more onto it? It wasn't the licensees who said the code of conduct was wrong was it? It was external factors.

Mr O'Hagan, if you care as much as you profess about the great British pub, please can we have a more balanced, considered and thoroughly researched piece of journalism rather than baying to the masses that read The Daily Telegraph. You never know, a little education of those very people maybe what is necessary to save our marvelous venues.

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What a stupid man,he should be sacked as soon as possible.shouting his mouth off about things he knows nothing about.he should become a labour mp.

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"Much acclaimed journalist" is he? Not by me, he isn't!! Hyped ill-researched clap-trap does not come from the highly acclaimed. Perhaps the Telegraph should be as rare in pubs as the Daily Wail has become, since its anti-pubs tirades!

John Ellis

Crown Inn, Oakengates

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