A licensee has been ordered to remove his smoking shelter because the seven screws fastening it to the ground mean it needs planning permission.
Robin Watson faces a £20,000 fine if he doesn’t take down the £300 gazebo at the back of the Shoulder of Mutton in York.
The case re-enforces the need for licensees to make extra sure they have planning permission for shelters regardless of whether they believe it is permanent or not.
Enterprise Inns lessee Watson erected the shelter last year and had the poles supporting it screwed to the ground to stop it blowing away.
Council planners told him the structure needs planning permission because it is physically attached to the ground had been up for a year or so.
Watson said he feared for trade if the shelter went. “If I didn’t have the shelter up I think a lot of smoking customers would simply move to a pub where they can smoke outside.”
Yorkshire’s Euro MP, Ukip member Godfrey Bloom, branded the council’s threat “absurd” and said he wou
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Alastair Elliott 04/09/2008 08:44:17![]() |
RE: Pub shelter scuppered by screws It is very sad that these officialls do not have anything better to do with their time than pick on this poor Licencee all because of seven screws. Shame on them. This post replies to this thread |
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mandy vincent 04/09/2008 23:07:29![]() |
RE: Pub shelter scuppered by screws Alistair, could the seven screws go into seven concrete slabs on top of the concrete? They would not be in the ground then surely. Someone thought of this before me, but cannot see it mentioned anywhere here. This post replies to Alastair Elliott > RE: Pub shelter scuppered by screws |
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Forum user 3958 05/09/2008 11:26:34![]() |
RE: Pub shelter scuppered by screws The UKIP MEP is bang on this is quite ludicrous. Attach the lean-to with pegs tethered to the ground or use 6 screws, find a loophole, just don't cave into these tedious Council jobsworths. Good Luck! I must compliment MA's 'legal advisor' once again. No miserable Council cronie, no jobsworth jerk of Euro red tape, no half-wit from the Labour Politburo is ever wrong according to this compliant comrade of Law. If there's ever a problem this loophole expert will just compound it, underline it and wave the white flag... MA get a new lawyer, someone better than absolutely useless This post replies to this thread |
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Vic Thompson 05/09/2008 12:51:28![]() |
RE: Pub shelter scuppered by screws A small section of an article titled ' Trials of Small Business' I have this pinned on my office wall so that the VAT , Revenue, Council etc etc can have something to read when they are not looking through my accounts for something that isnt there. " Those who know no better will frequently volunteer,from their superannuated havens, that it must be great working for yourself !. It is the same sort of attitude that informs the jobsworths of the Inland Revenue, customs and excise officials and local councils. These self-important sadists bolster their sullen resentment with an envy that lends a biting edge to their 'schadenfreude'. The presumption, of course, is that the self employed people whom they gleefully persecute make the riches of Arabia and swan around enjoying the life of Reilly on the golf courses and in fancy restaurants. That most self employed business folk earn around £30,000 per year and work an inordinate amount of hours, often with their homes at stake as collateral is well enough rehearsed- but will always remain obscure to those who choose not to see. The self employed, who pay the taxes to keep these civil servants in a job, get total devotion from the serried ranks of small minded bullies who display an uncharacteristic zeal in performing their duties when it comes to the harassment of those whom they perceive as having more imagination than they ." So to all the council officials, revenue etc etc reading this, I hope your weekend is S*** . Realistically they wont read it cause they will all have knocked off early!! ( after a morning of Facebook, Bebo, booking holidays etc etc at our expense ) . V This post replies to this thread |