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A new cross-party campaign has called for changes to the smoking ban to help save pubs and clubs.
The aim of the Save Our Pubs & Clubs campaign, launched today at Westminster, is to force an amendment to to allow pubs to have a ventilated smoking room when legislation comes up for review in 2010.
It plans to set up a network of regional groups throughout the country to lobby politicians and raise awareness of the impact the ban has had on the pub trade.
The campaign has already received high profile backing from Anthony Worrall Thompson, patron of the smokers’ group Forest.
"The smoking ban has had an extraordinarily detrimental effect on pubs and clubs and you can understand why," he said.
"They used to be bastions of adult entertainment where young and old could meet and chat over a pint without the health police looking over their shoulders. Modern ventilation systems combined with separate rooms make it perfectly acceptable to smoke indoors.
"The legislation as it stands i
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kevin o'connor 30/06/2009 09:43:18 |
Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign Mark, not only will this campaign utterly fail in its objective, we will be lucky if further restrictions are not loaded on us. According to Sue Carroll in todays Mirror the EU are looking at banning smoking outside pubs. Anybody got any further information? This post replies to J Mark Dodds > Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign |
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| J Mark Dodds 30/06/2009 10:25:38 |
Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign Kevin. Agreed. Quite seriously the pubcos must shoulder much of the blame for the current situation, along the same lines that parents are blamed for mis-behaviour of their children. Because of the way pubcos 'manage' their business, i.e. devolving ALL operational issues to the tenant they therfore abrogate themselves of any responsibility toward micro managing any and all aspects of their estates. This allows pubcos in clear conscience to blame the tenant when anything and everything goes wrong, including the aftermath of the smoking ban. It's the crux of what is wrong with the pub industry as a whole, why there is no One plausible representative voice that speaks for the whole with the necessary authority to be taken seriously by government - even in wide ranging consultation over bringing in major legislation that will inevitably bear heavily on pubs is proposed. This post replies to kevin o'connor > Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign |
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| J Mark Dodds 30/06/2009 10:59:34 |
Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign I do hope that Ewan is the light fingered post remover on this thread. It would be so tedious if it were the anonymous eedjit. On further reading of the article I that noticed: "The new campaign is also supported by Forest, the liberal think tank Progressive Vision, the Adam Smith Institute, which champions the free market, and the Manifesto Club which campaigns for “freedom in everyday life”." Wonder what, particularly the last three groups, think of the pub market in relation to the tie; how liberal it is and whether they wupport its removal? The tie certainly goes against the grain of all their thinking. If anyone fancies dropping them a line it might be interesting to find out. This post replies to this thread |
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Richard Yates 30/06/2009 11:11:27  |
Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign They wupport it do they...I bet they wanted to welease Wodewick too! Well you did say it was a surreal thread, and you have to laugh :-) This post replies to J Mark Dodds > Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign |
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| kevin o'connor 30/06/2009 09:43:18 |
Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign Mark, not only will this campaign utterly fail in its objective, we will be lucky if further restrictions are not loaded on us. According to Sue Carroll in todays Mirror the EU are looking at banning smoking outside pubs. Anybody got any further information? This post replies to J Mark Dodds > Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign |
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Albert Crumb 30/06/2009 11:28:49 |
Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign Albert returns briefly just to say - smoking in pubs never will. After two years, the remnants of the licensees' smoking brigade really should accept the status quo. If you're bored, why not start a campaign to save the dodo from extinction? Albert reckons it'll have more effect. This post replies to this thread |
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| Inez Ward 30/06/2009 11:59:24 |
Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign Already talking to some of them Mark This post replies to J Mark Dodds > Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign |
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| Jon Singleton 18/07/2009 01:16:20 |
Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign double post edited by: Jon Singleton at: 18/07/2009 01:16:40 This post replies to Albert Crumb > Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign |
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| Jon Singleton 18/07/2009 01:14:54 |
Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign Hey Albert Are you really Forum User 3944? I am truly disappointed the smoking campaign was not more openly fought when it was in the boiling pot There should have been more latitude from those blatantly and openly against any opportunity to consider the non smoker. I wonder if those staunch campaigners wish they had listened to the more moderate ones who actually had the real ear of the industry There was no need for the ban and I truly believe it wouldn't have happened for the mis guided putting up the 'smoking allowed throughout signs' I had non smoking areas. In other words, I deferrd to the smokers but made allowances for non smokers I blame those spokespersons that said the ban would never happen and accused the Government of abusing Human Rights Such naivety and personal trumpertry really messed things up It was at the time when forums such as this and the Publican were at the fore and those who were vocal were quite revered in what they said We have now come out of that cycle and things have moved on I honestly wonder if there could be a change of the law as I personally feel there could be a solution As I have always said, the reason for the ban was the 'smoking allowed throughout signs' If those smokers would actaully get off their high horses and realise it is not a personal vendetta then maybe there could be progress. Maybe very little after all these years. But the blame should not be against those that wanted consideration for the non smoker but the self appointed smart alecs that said they spoke for the rest of you. edited by: Jon Singleton at: 18/07/2009 01:15:58 This post replies to Albert Crumb > Amend smoking ban, save pubs — says new campaign |
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