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Tied licensees who take part in industrial action are putting their businesses and homes at risk, one pubco has warned.
The pubco hit out after trade union the GMB announced a series of 16 national roadshows ( GMB announces pub strike roadshow ) to gain support for a national ballot on industrial action by tied pub tenants.
The GMB is to ballot its members over whether they are for or against industrial action and what form that should take.
The union believes that any member taking part in industrial action has legal immunity for 12 weeks under trade union legislation, as long as a majority vote in favour of the action.
The first step in any such industrial action could be a switch-off of all Brulines beer flow monitoring equipment.
But one pubco slated the proposals and warned that tied tenants would be harming their own businesses and putting their livelihoods and homes at risk.
It said, it did not believe that tied lessees were covered by legal immunity because they were self
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kevin o'connor 09/02/2010 08:27:12 |
RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods The union "believe" that they have immunity. The union "believed" the strike ballot at BA was legal, funny the law "believed" something different. If you follow these crazy guys you had better make sure that you stick to every dot and comma in the terms of your lease. Provided that you were ever bothered to read it in the first place This post replies to this thread |
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Karl Harrison 09/02/2010 08:56:32 |
RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods And the name of the pubco is...???? Oh, they didn't give their name then. I suppose if they don't their name we don't attach too much credibility to what they're saying. "....putting their homes and livelihoods at risk..." - sounds like the sort of effects you normally expect from signing a pubco agreement. Rich coming from a pubco - although we don't know which one it is. Good to see that them acting courageously as usual. It seems that Brigid 'Mother Hen' Simmonds OBE didn't want to attach her name to this press release. Wise, for once. edited by: Karl Harrison at: 09/02/2010 09:00:19 This post replies to this thread |
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| Gilbert Bank 09/02/2010 08:36:50 |
RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods I tend to agree, Kevin. I believe it would be of more use to stop the baby at birth. Providing advice to potential new entrants by way of attending "open days" for example and providing alternative viewpoints to that provided by these companies could be a more risk averse strategy. It is often stated here that the tenant should be no worse off than the Freehouse. A good start would be for the pubco to provide full trading history between the outgoing tenant and pobco for a minimum period of five years. Info to include all details of any financial assistance from the pubco to the tenant. Data Protection issues could easily be resolved. Nobody would expect anyone to buy a Freehose without full disclosure of financial history and although this stops short of total disclosure there is a lot of info the pubco chooses not to impart to new tenants. I would contend that witholding such information at the point of investment is reason enough to walk away. We now know that it is all about signing up a tenant and little to do with the "business" of pubs. This post replies to kevin o'connor > RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods |
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paul salvadori 09/02/2010 08:58:41 |
RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods Precisely. No change there then. Nothing to lose joining the GMB, but all to gain. This post replies to Karl Harrison > RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods |
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| Gilbert Bank 09/02/2010 09:16:08 |
Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods Without identifying the pubco this is nothing more than a blatant threat from a bullyS who has just found out that Walter the softy is being promoted in his next fight by Ricky Hatton. No pubco name, no story. You could make this stuff up all day long with he said she said. Pointless. If they don't want to own their statements they have no value and should not be reported. This post replies to this thread |
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| J Mark Dodds 09/02/2010 09:16:56 |
RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods Gilbert on the matter of full trading history: See the thread on Simon Townsend's distressingly George Canning - at that pub's open day the pubco was doling out a chunky pack of glossly brochures from Enterprise which did not include a single line about the pub that was being marketed. All the guff (oh my, I'm overusing that word) about codes of practice and responsibilities of the tenant, the support packages and bells and whistles, not a word about the pub they were trying to get some sucker to sign up to on a less than unsustainable rent and a boosted discount off over priced wholesale list. The rent asking now is £3K more than the passing rent when it failed - although the discount is £60 a barrel more which will make all the difference I suppose. This post replies to Gilbert Bank > RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods |
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| J Mark Dodds 09/02/2010 09:26:04 |
RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods Kevin O'Connor 'believes' the GMB is a crazy bunch of lefties and that all tied tenants are simpletons who wouldn't understand a lease even if they were literate enough to read it. edited by: J Mark Dodds at: 09/02/2010 09:26:16 This post replies to kevin o'connor > RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods |
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| J Mark Dodds 09/02/2010 09:26:51 |
Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods Gilbert this statement has the odour of Enterprise behind it. This post replies to Gilbert Bank > Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods |
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| Russell Camp, The Wheatsheaf, Thornbury. 09/02/2010 09:28:01 |
RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods Ewan, if I send you a press release, surely you would not publish it if it were anonymous? So why do we have to read this rot and not know who said it? Cheers Russell. This post replies to kevin o'connor > RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods |
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| kevin o'connor 09/02/2010 09:29:23 |
RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods I believe that whatever the outcome it will not cost the GMB. It may however cost the licencee everything This post replies to J Mark Dodds > RE: Pubco: GMB is threatening pub livelihoods |
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