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Dear Ken. When was the last time you went out and delivered 17to18 tonnes of beer, by hand? Just to get that off the lorry would be hard enough work for most human beings. That my freind is just the beggining of a very hard process. Some accounts are uphill pushes, downhill holdbacks, steps, gravel etc etc. I could go on all day. Then if that is not enough sweat and toil, there are empty containers to contend with, cases of bottles etc! I dont want any sympathy here, just the people who come on here, and i quote "the draymands job is easier now than it ever was"  to understand it is not. Period. If anything it is a lot harder. So im going out with a few of my muppet friends to eat, oops sorry spend some of my hard earned peanuts! Dik