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Bill Gibson 12/03/2010 09:59:38  |
Smoke rebel Hogan is out of prison > Smoke rebel Hogan is out of prison
To clarify Alan's cocern regarding the supplying of legal advice, both Tony and Nick obtained Independent Legal Opinion http://www.intersolicitors.co.uk/uk-directory/england/herefordshire/hereford/coulson-read-lewis-solicitors.html Hamish has defended himself and is now set to enter the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg having already won two Appeals on the way. Alan, you can trawl all you want through Forum chit chat but all you do at the end of the day is expose the total ignorance that you have on factual information. |
| Bill Gibson 10/03/2010 11:41:42 |
Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner' > Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner'
Alan For you further information, many members of Freedom2Choose contributed to the OLD Holburn Appeal as there is a link to his Appeal from the F2C website ... but hey as usual you chose to ignore this fact when posting. |
| Bill Gibson 10/03/2010 11:26:42 |
Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner' > Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner'
Alan .. yes you are right for once. I am now involved inpolitics as I sit on the Human Rights and Civil Liberties Cross Party Group within the Scottish Parliament on behalf of The International Coalition Against Prohibition. Now ... by virtue of this exposure to the political world, some very interesting things get done on behalf of the general public. I am part of a team who will 'police' the Bill of Rights as it passes through the UK Parliament and will see this remit through all the way to the United Nations in Geneva. Another interesting development is that Smokefree Ligislation contravenes the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948 Article 1 Article 1. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood. Applying this to the Smokefree Legislation means that if you create an indoor smokefree environment within a venue, then a similar environment must be created to cater for smokers as they must be traeted as equals. Above all else everyone must be treated with Dignity and forcing people outdoors to participate in the legal act of recreational smoking breaches the Dignity aspect of the Act. |
| Bill Gibson 02/03/2010 17:43:32 |
Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner' > Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner'
Gilbert, this Smokefree Legislation has far reaching effects well beyond that of the Hospitality Sector ... as the Industry rolled over and got into bed with ASH and the Health Department it can sink as far as |I am concerned. No .. it is about the dignity of the minority group that have been made social outcasts, who have died ( a nurse in Norwich and a pensioner in Dundeeas well as a doorman in London before you mock at the statement) as a result of the ban being introduced that concen me. |
| Bill Gibson 02/03/2010 16:29:39 |
Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner' > Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner'
Alan I agree there are much bigger issues to worry about, the fact that our lives are now being run from Brussels is a clear indication as to the sell-out by Gordon Brown on the future of our childern and their children. As far as Gilbert ... well he has ranted on this Forum for years now and no doubt will continue to do so. Rants will win nothing ... united action is the way forward as has been shown by the Bar and Small Business Owners around the world , except here in the UK, as the fear of having their license revoked by the LA is enough to silence them. |
| Bill Gibson 02/03/2010 09:28:02 |
Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner' > Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner'
As , far as Human Rights issues... I am a member of a team of Civil Society Organisations tasked with 'policing' the Bill of Rights at its various sages through the UK Parliament after the General Elections and then onward to the United Nations in Geneva. Yes I will be taking my place at the table in Geneva, while others sit at keyboard moaning about their Rights being Eroded. The International Coalition Against Prohibition (TICAP) is a Member Organisation of the Human Rights and Civil Liberties Cross-Party Group within the Scottish Parliament and is therefore a recognised organisation within political circles. |
| Bill Gibson 02/03/2010 08:07:08 |
Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner' > Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner'
As I have said earlier, there are underlying issues that cannot be divulged regarding the Means Test issue. All I can say is that the subject was mentioned in Court two weeks ago .. I cannot and will not go further than that. If a decision to jail a person is based on their political affiliation this is Discrimination and sets a dangerous presidence considering the MPs' Expenses scandle and the legal cases that will take place in the coming months. We also have a case in Scotland where a businessman falsly claimed £80000 in benefits while having assets of £600000 yet the Deputy First Minister wrote to the Courts pleading that he should not be given a custodial sentence. In addition this man was a repeat offender. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/article7022728.ece |
| Bill Gibson 02/03/2010 07:59:32 |
Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner' > Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner'
You never change do you Gilbert, big mouth but no balls to get off your backside & support your trade & customers ... no nothing changes with you. Consider for example that HMG gives ASH Scotland 1 million pounds of your money each year to ruin your businesses, then they hand more out to CRUK to do the same and that is before the Pharma industry throws their money in the same direction. So based upon the above, just where do you plan to magic out the 2 - 3 million it would take to fund your campaign to change the Smokefree Legislation or do you plan to roll over yet again? |
| Bill Gibson 01/03/2010 23:15:32 |
Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner' > Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner'
Obviously I have been closely involved in this case, attending Court Hearings, etc and can advise that Nick has had a raw deal here but I am unable to divulge further than that. You are correct in your statement regarding Means Test but again there is underlying issues surronding Court proceedures followed that will be highlighted at the appropriate time. Go to sections 43 / 44 of this document, it is clear that the EU have directed operations from afar http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:296:0004:0014:EN:PDF "....many jurisdictions recommend the use of high-profile prosecutions to enhance deterrence. By identifying prominent violators who have actively defied the law or who are well known in the community, by taking firm and swift action and by seeking maximum public awareness of these activities, authorities are able to demonstrate their resolve and the seriousness of the law." It appears that the EU has allowed a misguided public health initiative to devolve into an unequivocal, anti-smoking witch hunt. To "recommend the use of high-profile prosecutions" for people "well known in the community" amounts to nothing less than targeting particular people for prosecution--not only before they've broken any law, but perhaps even before a law exists to be broken. |
| Bill Gibson 01/03/2010 22:53:44 |
Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner' > Smoke ban rebel is 'political prisoner'
Strange that you should raise this , at this point in time 50% of the money to get Nick out of jail appears to have been raised in 24 hours ... so back to your the bar, Gilbert unless you have something more constructive to add such as a fund raising event. This is not about smoking, or health and never has. It is about the total control of the public by way of Global Governance and it is unity that will win the day. So plan to attend the TICAP Conference in The Hague on 15th March 'Are Guests Welcome, Prohibition in the Hospitality Industry' Here you can meet with real Bar Owners who fight to win and on the 9th June when the Freedom Party gain power in the Netherlands they will modify their legislation following the model of Spain. Bulgaria, Croatia, Denmark, and many more countries prefer to offer choice Last year the EU Commission tried but failed in their attempts to silence us, this year we go even further by introducing the subject of Alcohol Prohibition |