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Bill Gibson 14/05/2007 08:52:25 |
RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness Off thread but taken from the Herald regarding prescribing NRP to children Professor David Marks, London, UK In the opinion of many independent nicotine researchers, the Committee on the Safety of Medicines has got its new advice on NRT dramatically wrong. In approving NRT use in 12 to 18-year-olds and also pregnant women, the Committee has been influenced by people and organisations who have pro-NRT biases. These biases have been fed by gifts in money and in kind from the companies which manufacture and distribute NRT products. The use of such "experts" in forming important clinical decisions is morally wrong and should be illegal. Scotland's family doctors will be appropriately cautious about prescribing a drug that is a poison and carries many potential dangers to the foetus and adolescent smokers. There are many effective ways to help people to quit which are perfectly safe. It is shocking that tobacco researchers who have received funding from the industry and who know that NRT is hardly better than a placebo feel no sense of shame about their conduct. Thankfully, GPs in Scotland will make up their own minds about the safety and risks of NRT in light of the pitfalls of industry sponsored advice. At last a professional speaks out....
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| Robert Feal-Martinez 14/05/2007 09:35:59 |
RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness This from Bill's post needs highlighting: There are many effective ways to help people to quit which are perfectly safe. It is shocking that tobacco researchers who have received funding from the industry and who know that NRT is hardly better than a placebo feel no sense of shame about their conduct. Will ASH feel a sense of shame, will Deborah Arnott, Amanda Sandford, Ian Willmore feel a sense of shame, that doctors are concerned about political interence into clinical issues, putting unborn babies and teenagers at risk. Of course not they openly promote drugs that kill. With his brain washed by state propaganda and misinformation Nick Hirst, 18, was convinced that smoking kills, and that it would decrease his athletic performance and – who knows – perhaps even his performance with girls. As so many other victims do, Nick ran to the drug store to buy Zyban – so much recommended even by the ministry of health – to “cure” smoking, the disease that does not exist. And indeed Zyban may even deliver: it may make you quit -- one way or another . Hit by a powerful depression, Nick stayed off cigarettes, as he was truly convinced that smoking kills . Everybody says so: maybe even his doctor, some of his friends who have been already brainwashed – and, who knows, even his ant, who heard some pharmaceutical stooge quoting mortality statistics on the radio. Nick hung himself to a tree in a park. The investigation is now conclusive: it was Zyban-induced depression -- although one must not forget to blame alcohol and an obsessive personality as well, in spite of the fact that they never existed before taking Zyban, and no indications of suicidal tendency was given.
We have to keep in mind that there are concomitant causes, This post replies to Bill Gibson > RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness |
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| Gilbert Bank 14/05/2007 09:56:09 |
RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This post replies to this thread |
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| Gilbert Bank 14/05/2007 09:58:00 |
RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness Thats better. Bob, Bill. Why? This post replies to this thread |
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| Robert Feal-Martinez 14/05/2007 10:01:11 |
RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness And don't let ASH tell you differently This from their website: Zyban (Bupropion Hydrochloride) Zyban is a treatment which changes the way that your body responds to nicotine. You start taking Zyban a couple of weeks before you quit and then continue the treatment for a few weeks to help you through the withdrawal cravings. It's only available on prescription and is not available if you are pregnant. Champix A new stop smoking treatment called Champix is now available on prescription and guidance on its use is expected from NICE, the organisation that assesses new treatments, in July 2007. Champix has already been shown to have more severe side effects than Zyban which is known to have killed dozens of people, either directly or indirectly and yet ASH openly endorse their use. ASH are the piriars of death. They claim to want to rid the world of the harm from tobacco but promote death from drugs containing tobacco products. This is what the SMC wrote about Champix in Januanry this year. Efficacy and safety in patients with significant co-morbidity are uncertain. The general advice from the SMC's to doctors, is, it's up to you.? This post replies to Robert Feal-Martinez > RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness |
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| Gilbert Bank 14/05/2007 10:52:06 |
RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness Is this relevant to the thread? I think not. The awareness of the ban is an important issue to licencees as the day looms large. Posts about side effects of NRT are another argument and it may be argued for a totally different forum. The news on the street, Bob, is the world will not end if you don't post on every smoking related article. Quality, not quantity. This post replies to Robert Feal-Martinez > RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness |
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| Bill Gibson 14/05/2007 10:54:49 |
RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness Gilbert...unless you have stopped watching TV, Smoking Cessation is covered by TV Advertising therefore there is every need to provide the wider picture. This post replies to Gilbert Bank > RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness |
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| Robert Feal-Martinez 14/05/2007 11:00:07 |
RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness The quality is imparting the truth not the social engineered lies of the anti smoking movement and their supporters. Why should I not post ASH etal believe they have the right to contact licensees about snuff, have the right to dictate to drug co's who they employ, the right to threaten employers with legal action etc. When they have no such right under their Charitable Status. As it happens further complaints have gone to the Charities Commission. ASH as a Limited Company are trading Insolvent according to their posted accounts, another breach of CC rules. Their donations are servicing debt not research and education. This post replies to Gilbert Bank > RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness |
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| Jon Singleton 14/05/2007 11:08:16 |
RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness Good God, Robert, Where do you find your stuff? " The investigation is now conclusive: it was Zyban-induced depression -- although one must not forget to blame alcohol and an obsessive personality as well," Not to forget the alcohol and obsessive personality !!! Not to forget it has nothing to do with smoking ads !! This post replies to Robert Feal-Martinez > RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness |
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| Jon Singleton 14/05/2007 11:13:24 |
RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness Too true, Gilbert Going back to the article, Only 50 days to go. Excellent stuff. Still no glimpse of a JR, either. Lots of links to far away places and cut and pastes from unonnected web pages though. That should keep a lot of people happy. This post replies to Gilbert Bank > RE: Smoking ban ads to boost awareness |
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