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Ken Nason 15/10/2007 15:32:27![]() |
RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban First report covering a period that cannot be explained away by floods, world cup blues or pink faries at the bottom of the garden. "Smoking bans do not harm businesses". Let's hear the mantra again so that we can all believe it if it said enough times.
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William McLeod 15/10/2007 17:03:02![]() |
RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban Amen, Ken!! This one cannot be explained away by the Ashites, can it? When reading the usual phletora of odds and ends over the weekend like the new stealth tax and the pubco's downplaying of the smoking ban blaming sales changes on the weather, it is nice to see a company explain what we are all facing. It is a fact that stay time (the average length of time a customer stays) and revenue per head (based on customers alternating between smoking and drinking) will have a long term, continual impact on our service related industries. But, I forgot, they are trying to run bingo halls, casinos, and pubs out of business, anyhow!! Glad to see some uniformity at last. Get rid of everything so that we can have more people buying cut-rate drinks at the supermarkets and promote more drinking at home, increasing domestic violence and possibly meaning more people will be subject to that evil SHS (although we know they aren't worried about that one because they cannot prove anything about it, anyway). At least, when they run us all out of business and anti-social behaviour is still there, we can tell them we told them so. Although we will probably inundate the bankrupty courts and drive the government bankrupt with increased court costs administering our cases. But, last but not least, the supermarket chains will operate pubs and quit selling alcohol in their stores because they have found that there is more profit in making a profit on alcohol, rather than giving it away.
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Graham Allman 15/10/2007 17:09:28![]() |
RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban So ,lets see, 19% of customers dont go because they cannt smoke, does this mean they only went there to smoke and not for the bingo ?. However , have to agree with ole Ken ,Robert & Co , there will be tears and all the fault of New Labour and the idiots who voted for them and keep doing so.In a post somewhere by Robert he asked if anyone owned up to voting for them , deathly silence all around. Publicans are amongst the biggest and most well placed "influencers" arouund , do your stuff lads , and get rid of this most dreadfull of governments. William re casinos , this government is resposible for granting more regional casino licences than ever known which more than makes up for the headliner of declining the applications for super casinos. Have to say i am somewhat unsure why they have a downer on the pub trade other than the "politics of envy" ie pubs historically have been owned by brewers who tended to be "toffs" and tories. Getting even me thinks!!! Its time now for the trade to "get even back". This post replies to Ken Nason > RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban |
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Jon Singleton 15/10/2007 17:20:05![]() |
RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban William said " Amen, Ken!! This one cannot be explained away by the Ashites, can it?" Nothing to do with the fact people go to Bingo to gamble? " ................ and the Gambling Act which has meant it had to cut the number of £500 jackpot machines allowed at each venue." This post replies to William McLeod > RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban |
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Robert Feal-Martinez 15/10/2007 17:47:02![]() |
RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban "The fall in spend per head is attributable largely to the effects of the smoking ban on customer dwell times," the statement said. "The coincidence of a number of external factors has resulted in a period of volatility and a lack of visibility unprecedented in the UK gaming industry." This post replies to this thread |
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Dave Robinson 15/10/2007 18:19:05![]() |
RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban Jon i would also add to your point that the new maximum £1 stake is seriously hitting bingo halls and also all AGC's they originally had a very popular £2 stake until the gambling act came into force - since the gambling act, average stake has dropped considerably.
This point cannot be overlooked in the clamour to pin the blame soley on the ban. Machine income in bingo halls provides the biggest income as people play between bingo games. This post replies to Jon Singleton > RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban |
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Jon Singleton 15/10/2007 18:33:21![]() |
RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban And to boot, the most profitable Despite Robert's puerile digs about 'cyber pubs' I ran one of the largest railway station pubs with a very large take from fruit machines This made a massive impact on my P&L. The profits were massive with no staff wages needed . With the bingo fruit machine losses their once protected staff percentage figures would have been massively hit.
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Robert Feal-Martinez 15/10/2007 19:26:19![]() |
RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban So managed house staff don't matter either to Jon. Aren't you the defender of manged Jon. This post replies to Jon Singleton > RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban |
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Robert Feal-Martinez 15/10/2007 19:27:23![]() |
RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban Dave, the cost of the stake to Licensees matters not it's the cost of the license. This post replies to Robert Feal-Martinez > RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban |
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andy davis 15/10/2007 20:11:37![]() |
RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban Dave I suspect that those who used to play machines between games are now outside having a smoke instead. This post replies to Dave Robinson > RE: Bingo hit hard by smoke ban |
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